Science vs Religion


A few days ago when I wrote Science or Religion, I asked you what would you choose between the two.

Today, the scenario has changed. Today, it’s no longer a question. I won’t tell you why science is better than religion or why religion is stupid. No!

A person named Thomas Sheltrown asked me a few questions on the topic. We both answered the same questions from our respective perspectives.

Same Questions, Different Answers!

His fiction is in RED!

My facts are in BLUE!

What is prime reality—the really real?

Anything of eternal value. God, Heaven, People’s souls, faith, hope, love. Not that this earth is useless or fake, but it’s temporary and we can’t take anything from it with us when we die.

Prime Reality doesn’t exist. We never live life in real-time. Whatever we see; whatever happens around us; whatever happens across the world; has already happened by the time we get to know about it. Nothing is ever “Really Real”!


Moreover, we don’t even know if we are the actual versions of ourselves or just another remnant. A remnant that got separated from the first ever version of us over and over and over again with each and every single choice we made along the way. We don’t know.

Someday, we might be able to trace everything down to that last bit. But until then, we are all living in the past. A version of some kind of reality that is not actually and wholly real!

What is the nature of the world or universe around us? Was it created, did it just pop into
being, is it ordered, is it chaos, does it even exist or is something we create in our mind?

That’s the first question The Bible answers. “In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth” (Genesis 1:1). And it goes on to explain how God created everything. And without looking at The Bible, one can tell the world is ordered. Animals live in clans and families. Plants know when and how to grow without instruction. The seasons come and go and the sun and moon move in an organized loop.

The world and the Universe is chaotic to normal mind. But if mathematics is your native language, the Universe is beyond perfect. It has a melody to it. A pattern. A logic. A story. A history that can be traced back to the Big Bang.


Neither was it created, nor did it ‘pop’ into being. There was a ‘BANG’! The time when one superforce blasted into 4 (or more) different forces and spread across the Universe.


In the beginning, there was chaos. Insane amounts of energy, travelling through space and time, with no pattern at all. And then, it all started falling into place. Gravity spread across dimensions giving our Universe just the right amount of it to form what we see today.

What is a human being?

A being with a God-given soul who God loves. God also gave humans free choice, along with gifts, talents, vices and flaws. God made each human personally and loves them deeply.

Human being is a combination of complex laws and theorems, put into practicality, some of which we are still trying to understand. The laws of physics are used to explain several bodily functions including the mechanics of muscles and body movements, fluid mechanics of blood and air flow, hearing and acoustic properties of the ears, vision optics, heat and energy, acoustics, and electrical signaling.


Almost 99% of the mass of the human body is made up of six elements: oxygen, carbon, hydrogen, nitrogen, calcium, and phosphorus.
The most basic element of which is hydrogen. Hydrogen and helium were the only two elements formed in abundance after the Big Bang, with trace amounts of lithium and beryllium.

Oxygen, on the other hand, was possibly first produced around 2.7 billion years ago.

What happens when a person dies?

Physical death isn’t the end. Their soul leaves their body and can go to either Heaven (Where God is, which makes it the best place ever) or Hell (a place of eternal, fiery separation from God) (Luke 16:19-31).
A person goes to Heaven if they’ve;


A: Admitted to God that they’re a sinner (Romans 3:23) and know that they should go to Hell for their sins (scary thought).
B: Believe that Jesus is the Son of God, came down to earth and lived a sinless life (a life that matched God’s standards). Then He sacrificed Himself on the Cross (the worst way to die), but came back to life three day later.
C: Believe (or trust entirely) in Jesus as your Savior and Lord.
That’s how you get to Heaven, nice and simple.

He/She dies. Their bodies can’t take in as much oxygen as they need, or someone’s heart stops beating, or whatever happens to the person.


The truth is really hard to accept! But, I will tell you anyway.


When a person dies, depending on the type of death (accident, cardiac arrest, etc), a person goes through different intensities of pain, and eventually the person is declared dead.

Is it possible to know absolute truth?

Totally! God gives us all the truth we need to know in His Word, The Bible.

It highly depends on your definition of truth. If you look at yourself in the mirror and accept that you look exactly what you look like in the mirror, then yes.


But if you have studied science, and know that you can never look at yourself in real-time, then no.

How do we know what is right and wrong?

Mostly by what God says in The Bible. God also gave every person a conscious. Most of us feel guilty when we’ve done something wrong, which is our conscious letting us know when we’ve done something wrong.

We know what is right, when we observe something, devise a theory, and the next time, when the same thing happens, your observations and theories hold and don’t break. When they do, we know they are wrong.


Like, Einstein’s General Relativity or Newton’s Third Law of Motion.
All along, we knew they were right because whenever they were used to make the necessary calculations, they gave adequate results.


But then we knew they were wrong, or not completely right, when Einstein’s Relativity broke inside the black hole and Newton’s third law of motion was violated in certain non-equilibrium situations.

What is the meaning of human history? Or who is in charge of history?

God is. He was there when the world began and will see the end of it. And He uses our history to show us how we can be saved from Hell.

Again, depends completely on your perspective.You can either choose the scientific plausible theory, also known as Darwinian theory or the theory of evolution.


Or you can choose to believe that we were ‘made’ by some irrationally hypothetical, unreal and non-existent thing, called god.


All in all, history is a mess. A story told by someone to someone else hundreds or thousands of times. Someone tells someone an apple fell and by the time it is told the hundredth time, the apple becomes mango, or orange, or a tiger.


History is manipulative. Only thing that is acceptable is mathematics and physics. The calculations. The formulas. The theories which can be proved right over and over again. The theories which can also be proved wrong and new adjustments can be made without the fear of offending a non-existent being and his ‘disciples’!

Categories: religion, science

27 replies

  1. I Personally, see God as a metaphor. We humans have an insatiable need for control. As children we were controlled by fear of fictional characters. We survived the rude awakening that Santa, the tooth fairy and the Easter bunny were merely control mechanisms used by our parents to make us socially acceptable little beings. We couldn’t see them either but we trusted and feared the repercussions if we didn’t toe the mark. I believe the same principal applies to God and religion. A fantastic control mechanism as long as you believe it and a rude awakening when you don’t.

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  2. Interesting! I sort of drew away from religion when I started realizing a few of the things you mentioned above. I’m not religious anymore, but I am still 50/50 on the existence of A God. We can never truly know if there is a God or not, and I don’t want to continue pretending like I do. The Bible was made from manly hands, so I don’t know if what it says is really true or not. In my opinion, your purpose in life is whatever you want it to be, and every purpose is just as true.

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  4. My hope has always been for some sort of “continuance” or “rebirth”, even if I existed in a lifetime before this one and I don’t remember it. Despite all our creeds and speculations, nevertheless, in the end– we’ll either “see”, or “sense nothing.”
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  5. I spend more time on things of God than other things. I listen to Rabbis from whom I have learned the most about being a Christian. I listen to Christian teachers (giants in their fields) and read the Word and write about it, and we cannot argue with mathematicians. We do not have the capacity to do that. I don’t get maths at all. I would love to, but no. I don’t. My uncle did maths problems for a pass time. I loved that! However, after all my searching for the truth in regards to my faith in God and Jesus, I have decided that I am good to go on my own understanding since everyone has an opinion and the standard lines we dish out do not convince anyone and are not proof enough for anyone to be convinced by argument to accept. The whole God thing is really like falling in love. You make eye contact (energetically experience spirituality) and you fall in love with what is our source. Your science talk reminds me of my kabbalah books – there is science in there and when the teachers explain it is so simple and beautiful you can’t understand how you didn’t get it before. You can’t unsee that beauty. You may find affinity with kabbalah. I have studied with the Kabbalah Centre and at the moment the classes on all levels are free.
    Kabbalah is as hard to understand as your science stories are. I do feel synchronicity there. Love and Light.

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  6. Although I appreciate your thoughts, I have a different perspective concerning the physical aspect of death. I have experienced the actual process of death on more than one occasion, and I’ll be the first to say, there is something after we leave this plain of existence. Man uses educated guesses to satisfy his own fears of the unknown, for man is to vain to look outside of his own thinking. I can appreciate science, but science only goes as far as mans ego is willing to travel, for he knows that the unknown awaits. I really enjoy your thoughts….no disrespect intended.

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  7. Keep up the journey of your own search Doctor. Someday you’ll perhaps easily see how rich it is that both of you are right and wrong. Were you at the Big Bang? Got faith it happened though. And the moment we propose to answer questions about a God, we shrink God, so open God to rational loopholes. And God chuckles, like a dad who’s tickled to see a son play king.

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  8. Thanks for the discussion! I agree with Thomas. The countless miracles of nature cry out that there is an intelligent Creator. The Bible reveals who He is. Thank you for your post.

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  9. Ah! I see what you mean now about my not being religious is a good thing! I will say that I turned to Buddhism after my father died, but as that’s philosophy and not religion (except for tax purposes) I’m much more comfortable with the idea that God doesn’t exist.

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  10. There’s a faint line between science and religion and that line is drawn by your experiences. Be it your upbringing, associations or knowledge.

    I will say, science is more of ‘education’ while religion is more of ‘accepting the things you can’t change.’

    Thanks for sharing this knowledge with us.

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