Science or Religion?


If you give me an option to choose either Science or Religion, I would blindly choose science on any day. However ironic that may sound, I would still pick Science over everything else.

Why?

In very simple terms, if you take every religious book and scripture ever written and burn them all with, no trace left, they won’t be written the same again as they are right now.

But if you do the same thing with science, and then start all over from Zero, Gravity will still exist and will still be 9.8 m/s2.

Religion is based on a myth said by someone, to someone, and then to someone else, and then written by someone, all of them living in different times. Religious books are more of a person’s point of view, rather than being something substantial we can rely upon.

Whereas Science, it is all true. It has its errors, its faults, rights and wrongs. It can be theorized, proved, explained and advanced from time to time.

Religion expects one to live life in the 21st century based on something that was written thousands of years ago, in a completely different world, under some particular circumstances, by someone who was going through something at that particular time and had a completely different opinion and context.

Religion shoves stuff down your throat. You can’t argue!

But with Science, you can argue as much as you want. And if you don’t believe something, you have all the right to get out there, study, and prove your theory.

Moreover, Science is based on facts, data, patterns and numbers.

Religion is based on some ever so elusive entity called God!

Take your pick. Choose Wisely!

P.S. Don’t tell me that religion and science can go hand in hand. No! They cannot.

And also, don’t tell me it is fine have a scientific bend and still believe because you are spiritual, not religious.

That’s just stupid!

117 thoughts on “Science or Religion?

  1. Religion is a complex socio political construct that doesn’t warrant preference over Science. Think of it as another means rulers and priests have together used in the old times to control or demand subservience of the population in the name of a god while also instilling some sense of fear in them to maintain social propriety and to some extent maintain law and order.
    It’s political. It’s also philosophical. A deity is merely an idol.
    It’s kind of a moot point to choose one over the other, there is no common ground – making this statement assuming you have knowledge of Religion as a whole and not what passes off as religion now – which, if studied properly even now, would still show you similar patterns

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    1. All I can say about what you wrote is that “love”, which Christians have proposed is within their god, cannot actually be referenced as an “idol”.

      An idol is something of physical form, or physical structure. Whereas, love is the emotion that is like the wind, without form, without structure. We, as humans, love merely because we can. That is the only reason we need. While science will choose to make endless discoveries, there are those who fall in love, and that is their only needed discovery. There are those who simply look around to see who is important. They are thankful for that.

      The prime aspect of love is to be content, is to be satisfied. Do we say it is good for our romantic partner to be disloyal, to betray us? No. We would never want that. Therefore, the only reason a person would ever be disloyal to another, is by wanting for more. That, right there, is against love.

      Of course, science operates in that latter fashion. Because, “wanting for more”, is their forte. A scientist is never satisfied with just one discovery, nor two. They will keep on discovering until there is nothing left to discover.

      Perhaps the real reason why science is so much against religion, is because of how much it dissects. While science would choose to dissect flesh, perform an autopsy on a cadaver, love is the emotion that keeps things whole. They are polar opposites through this description I write, are they not?

      Though, back to calling love an idol, how could love, were it to be seen as needing “evidence” for its existence, ever be dissected? That is just the same as disregarding love in what it is, and seeing everything as capable of being broken down. Does one look upon their marriage through such pessimism? They shouldn’t, if they want to keep things stable.

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      1. Nobody called love an idol. I simply said Religion and Science have no common ground. If they are properly understood, there need not be a contradiction of any manner. However I do know not everyone really understands them both. For them the contradiction has existed for centuries – that’s an entirely different matter.

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      2. Oh, good. “Religion and science have no common ground” is what you now said. That comes (somewhat) in line with what I wrote, except I wrote on love (a theme to do with my own blog), because it connects to what I wrote below this string of comments.

        People worship. This is true. I believe there’s a vast difference between the two words “knowledge” and “belief”. A Christian, for one, doesn’t know God exists, when he simply believes He exists. And, I’ll say it again, that nothing can prove something of no physical mass, to “exist”. Existence has to do with the flesh. If the Bible never mentioned Jesus, Christians would probably not be so confused as they are.

        I only referenced your words to calling love an idol, because you mentioned the words “a deity is merely an idol”. This, in turn, references what I wrote, that the Christian God is not an idol. My problem with today’s Christians is that they cannot be how Christianity was during its first few decades. They don’t believe in love, so much as they believe in themselves, as typical arrogant human beings.

        Today’s Christians would prefer to see God as something as real as any fleshy and flawed human being. Love is not flawed. It is people who love who are flawed. They act as stupid as any person adopting such a divine emotion.

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      3. The conflic is between science and religion.
        Religion or this thing called God, asks one to believe it without giving an actual proof of its existence or proving anything written in those books of religion being true.
        Science doesn’t ask you to do that.
        We theorize. We put our theories to test.
        If we are wrong, we accept and move forward and devise another theory.
        Religion has these few books written centuries ago and it just stopped evolving eversince.

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      4. “God asks one to believe” – was it really “God” or people who founded and then continued it blindly ?

        “We theorize” – this “we” are the people of science.

        It is always the people who fights and blames each other.

        And very true – “religion stopped evolving ever since”. Why ? Very nature of old human expectations. Recall, also in science, the ” apparently” Lord Kelvin declared that – no more principles left to be discovered in Physics – no more “evolution” in Science needed. Luckily he did not have a fan following to carry his words blindly forward, unlike religious followers. Ignorance is just a human thing.

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      5. That is the whole point. Religion is stagnant. Science evolves.
        Every single second, we get closer to the truth. Closer to the Theory of Everything.
        It still might take us 100 more years, but we will get there.
        And when we do, I am sure there will be no God at the finish line waiting for us.
        There will be an infinite number of new dimensions and possibilities.

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      6. “Closer to TOE” – yes, yes. Until then, it is really difficult for Science to convince all people, as there would remain a gap – yet to be filled by Science, but meanwhile filled by Religion.

        This is statistically inevitable.
        Thank you for discussing further.

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      7. Yeah. Right. It is difficult for us, after proving gravity, GR, SR, PE, KE, Fermat’s last theorem, laws of thermodynamics, entropy, giving a picture of Blackhole, Difraction, Harmonics, Resonance, Space-time, Force, etc. to be able to convince people that science exists.

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      8. I meant “Difficult to convince ‘all’ (not ‘everyone’) – that is easier to convince, at first a few, then some, later many but never all, until the “gap” is fully closed because there would be a chance for people pointing out the unanswered questions by Science. Obviously, a little before the “gap of discoveries” gets closed, the “gap of understandings” would close too, like a soft-closure before hard-closure.

        As an evidence, I note flat-earthers still exist today, despite the high popular number of Science discoveries, but such FE group is gradually reducing in size.

        Hope I’m clear now.

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    2. You don’t have to choose one over the other. You just have to completely ignore the religion part which is solely based on something completely elusive.
      And some people can choose one over the other if they have studied both equally.
      And I can say that, because I have.

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      1. Yes but my question remains, why? Why would you choose, say an apple over a brick? Because they are that different. I mean you, as a knowledgeable person. Forget the people constantly embroiled in this debate.

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      2. I would choose an apple over brick because I can make a house with a CLC block (which is stronger and lighter) instead of a brick. But nutritions of apple cannot be found in an orange.

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  2. I am a Christian. All that means to me is that I believe in the guiding force of love. Much of what my “religion” teaches is far too much within the literal realm of things. Foolish Christians, dating back centuries, have attempted to “prove the existence of God”, despite how some things cannot be proven.

    One doesn’t “prove” that love exists in the world, because it is always a very unseen thing, until one believes in its importance. And that’s all one can do for love. One believes in it.

    Yet, too many moronic Christians have “believed in God” as a literal and physical entity. By doing that, they disregard the 1st Commandment. The 1st Commandment, that speaks of having no others gods besides the one true God, means to not believe in gods of physical form. Such as a politician, or a celebrity… these are people whom many of our recent generations have wept for, have seemingly worshiped. In my eyes, it makes such children look pathetic. They trust in the most deceptive sorts.

    Here’s something you probably would never hear from a Christian, such as me. I am a Christian who believes God does not exist.

    How about that? A Christian who believes God does not exist? That’s unspeakable within the Christian world. I say this, because by foolish Christians believing in God as a literal being, they also make themselves look like gods, and thus, fall for every stupid move that each religious leader in the past has made. See, the only reason why Christians, in the past, were barbaric in their ways to “punish”, is because they disregarded the first commandment. To not worship anything other than love, makes a Christian true. Though, the idiotic Christians who burned people at the stake, boiled victims in oil, etc. made themselves look like every dictator in the past who has had a god complex.

    The Christian God has no existence, because love is the emotion of no physical or corporeal matter. “Existence” simply references flesh. “Non-existence” references something without a form. So… by an Atheist saying the words “God is not real” is them telling the truth without even realizing it.

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  3. Science is based on facts, evidence based,proof, and cannot be easily manipulated. It is not based on socio- culture and belief system.Whereas religion is based on socio- cultural patterns of behavior that is handled over from one generation to the other. It can be easily manipulated by the Pastors, individuals or anyone. The only thing common in religion is the belief in God by all religions but some religion do not believe in God the son,holy ghost and virgin Mary.Most religions worship through various means.Religion want you to know good from bad,know the ten commandments.Muslims believe in Mohammed and not Jesus Christ or virgin Mary.But these religious groups don’t trust each other. They criticize and condemn each other because they are for profit and claim of superpower, supreme being, God is omnipotent, and omnipresent .When Christianity was brought into Africa the white folks were shocked to see that the Africans have their own religion based on their environment.Mr LUDWIG was shocked he said and I quote “How can the untutored Africans Conceive God”.God is a philosophical concept that should not be conceived by Africans “.There is nothing here to conceive except that they believe in God but their methodology of communication is different. Whatever that the WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION did or did not do can be easily verified. Scientific research can be verified and there are peers review .Science is scientific based accurate, clear, exact,facts ,not subjective but objective. Whereas religion is belief system, theology, indoctrination, careful repetition of beliefs. I chose science over religion. Does that mean that I don’t believe in God?.No I believe in God because human being cannot create another human being. They can create Robots but not human being.

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      1. No Fairy Godmother did not come at night and leave them at my bedside.There was the process of conception after a man and a woman meet.The egg in the woman is ready (ovulation).She met the man and she became pregnant. I wrote a book about “George and his Grandfather by Philomena N Okeke @amazon.com.In that funny book I explained the process very well.

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      1. Our science is better because while studying it, we also learn to spell words properly.
        For example, we learn to say “Your science” instead of “you science”.

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      2. Oh you see the problem you are a slave to the auto correction clearly that was an omission or a typo than a spelling error but clearly I can see that you are far from wisdom, but be rest assured it is not a issue of what is better they are both existing scidcd just complements the gospel it doesnt matter what you believe everyone that tells you the gospel just needs you to hear it they are not responsible for changing your convictions. I dont know what “doctor ” you call yourself but clearly you need to be placed on meds with no decreasing therapeutic level. In the soundness of words I doubt you can match me but I would be wasting my time even the word of God has told me wisdom is profitable to direct so I am directing this on your behalf. You plagued with the midgetism of the mind. I had to coin a word for you because you have show an irresponsibility in composure to argue objectively.

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  4. To be quite honest, I’d not ever given it much thought. I enjoyed reading what you wrote. Science is taught in public schools; however religion is not. Never gave that much thought either. Thanks for stopping by my blog. Appreciate it.

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  5. Religion is an intellectual pestilence. It is, by far, the biggest turd in humanity’s intellectual punch bowl.

    As for faith, it is an abomination.

    I have young twins. I teach them only one thing about faith: “If your faith is sufficiently deep and strong, you can believe ANYTHING! Therein lies the problem!”

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  6. First of all, religion allows us to question it. Faith isn’t just a blind believe in something. We threaten it by asking questions. It’s how we make it stronger.
    Second, Religion tells us where everything came from. Science doesn’t. So in all things you prove or dissaprove in science, it does not answer the very basic questions, where did it all come from?

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      1. In science you ask scientists and professors etc, in religion, we ask priests and pastors, theology professors, the Bible itself

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      2. One more thing, let me ask you something, if every bit of news was erased…from the internet, magazines, newspapers etc
        People won’t be able to recount them exactly as they happened. Does that mean that none of it ever happened?
        I do hope you won’t take any of this as me attacking you,?

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      3. Thanks for stopping by my blog. You are a very intelligent and scientifically sound person. I know I can trust your scientific answer to a puzzling question I have always had. What came first the chicken or the egg? Should be a good research topic.

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      4. It’s a stupid topic. And one, that doesn’t require even a single google search.
        Chicken came first. The protein required to develop an egg cannot exist on its own. It is made by the chicken.
        A kid with basic understanding of biology can answer that.
        Moreover, chicken isn’t a static thing.
        Chickens are versions of dinosaurs.
        So theoretically, the egg you eat comes from a small dinosaur which is in the process of becoming something so big that it will eventually eat you and not the other way around.

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      1. Consider this… though, it may be a tad bit sensitive to some young people, in today’s time.

        Feminism. It is written the same in the book of Genesis, during the tale called “The Fall of Man”. As if the title alone isn’t enough to engross you in enlightenment, what is also related is what the tale specifically describes.

        “The Fall of Man” depicts choice, independent of God. In fact, that tale would most certainly describe what science suggests is more suited to be defined as “freedom” over what religion teaches.

        See, the only reason why science targeted Catholicism in the past, is because the Christian God is the god of love. Love, objectively being the highest emotion, can be torn down through dissatisfaction. What relates to dissatisfaction, is an independent choice. Back to The Fall of Man, Feminism is the movement of independent choice for a woman. Within Feminism, a woman is offered a choice, beyond the reach of what her husband allows. For Adam & Eve, Eve is given a choice by Satan, an independent one, beyond the reach of Adam’s warning against it.

        To make a choice, is always about deception. There’s only one reason why a woman is described to be related to deception, and you can see it around us, today. A woman, in today’s time, will believe her choices unique. She will believe her choices to be independent of anyone else’s choice. She will believe herself not dependent, despite how “originality” is never something completely original. Adam & Eve suggest “original sin”. Place these connections in order, and all is understood.

        I mean, hell, there’s even a pro-life vs. pro-choice going on, what with Christians siding with the former in it. No shit, because with choice, there’s always deception, related to Satan. With life, there is creation, related to God.

        The OP to this thread of comments said the words, “The Bible is very much relevant to the 21st century.” Perhaps it is most Atheists who cannot seem to open their minds to what is around them.

        Yes, Feminism is related to the tale with the characters of Adam & Eve, because “independent choice” is always on the side of a woman, what with her believing she can be wholly responsible with everything. We feed her “empowerment” motivation, or whatever, in the belief that she can be indestructible and fearless. It’s so meager and pointless.

        The Fall of Man is a tale that depicts a woman’s belief in independent choice, her belief that a man is not needed in her life, for her to do something. Eve bit the apple, and that was that. If that’s not accurate to today’s time, I don’t know what is.

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      2. What are you trying to say?
        Am I knowingly blind? Or am I a person who is mindfully blind to being aware of my environment, my existence and my thoughts?
        Because if you would have spent time studying, that’s what your comment loosely translates to in terms of educated people.

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      3. Science is insufficient in all ramifications, your origin as described by science is a flaw in thinking everything around you is created with a purpose and nothing under the heavens exist without a purpose everything around you is by design and it takes one who exist outside of time to anticipate and create. Science told you you evolved as a result of an explosion you bought that it will take you more faith to believe science than to believe God brought this world into existence , I never speak to convince people becuase the way this wisdom is set up it is not for the consciously blind it is for the genuinely blind some people feel when they tell them a God that is infinite created this world they think their approval changes the fact or truth which it never does science is inadequate despite its vast methodologies and they are unstable one person brought a notion which you believe in 2020 and in 2021 someone else comes with a research and tells you something lower or higher than what preceded it and you move in thought oscillating back and forth even in your believes, the truth is you are not obligated to accept what God has to tell you or offer all that was instructed from the begining of the gospel and the power of his might is that you hear it never says you have to accept so the Revelation and the coming of Jesus I not dependent on if you accept it or not, and again the fact that you have not seen something or never experience something does not mean it never exist. The world as it is was concisely designed why do you have 2 kidneys?? One can function and keep the human alive but why 2 because God knows there will come a time where people will make bad choices with food or stay in bad environment and cause harm to their bodies so he provided a two so if you ruin one you ue thr other wisely and if you ruin the two someone that matches can you beat that “matches” in a world where science thinks it is coincidence they have matches for organs funny and one who needs it actually finds it you dont have to beleive Jesus but you will always be conscientiously blind if you think there is no God. And yeah I guess that word “consciously blind” really went deep that was to let you know next time you have to argue objectively and not pick on me becuase I made a typo when typing fast that does not describe or tell you capacity in writing or otherwise. As the bible says he that has ears let him hear your choice, God might not have answered all.my questions about some things but science is flawed even your drugs that are claimed to cure things give you side effects that makes other people suffer more and more . Your thought and the lens from which you see is a myopic one go to other part of the world and get exposure and wisdom.

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  7. “Science has its errors” – True.

    When this error is huge enough, it becomes religion.

    Consider the flat earth “theory” – very much confirmed by the then travels by locals but later very easily disproved by global travels like Vasco Da Gama etc.

    What is magic today, would be science tomorrow (when opinions are updated) and what is science today would be religion tomorrow (when opinions are outdated). Hence, religion was a necessity as a precursor to science.

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    1. Religion was never a necessity. Religion was always nust a myth as it will continue to be.
      And if you knew about Archimedes, Aristotle or Anaximander, you wouldn’t have said that.

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      1. Religion was a necessary step in the evolution of human intelligence.

        “What are those light streaks in sky ?”
        Religion : “Beware. Must be Thor, the thunder god.”
        It is a human thing to attribute causes to an alive agent. Consider, blaming China for corona.

        Science : “No. That is lightning, electricity, ions, temperature, HOH …” and goes on explaining it pretty detailed.

        Do you seriously expect the primitive cavemen to explain like modern scientists ? Religion, even if is a myth, was an attempted “science” (with no advanced tech for verification) with greater error limits, that was later misused for political reasons.

        Hope, I am able to clarify it.

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      2. So, you’d choose to continue to be like those primitive cavemen?
        You also start hunting for food, travelling on foot, living in the jungles and do everything they did.

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      3. Religion was a necessary step in the evolution of human intelligence.

        “What are those light streaks in sky ?”
        Religion : “Beware. Must be Thor, the thunder god.”
        It is a human thing to attribute causes to an alive agent. Consider, blaming China for corona.

        Science : “No. That is lightning, electricity, ions, temperature, HOH …” and goes on explaining it pretty detailed.

        Do you seriously expect the primitive cavemen to explain like modern scientists or Archimedes to help them ? Do you really expect all contemporaries og Aristotle to have same level of intellect ? Some would still cling to outdated explanations. Religion, even if is a myth, was an attempted “science” (with no advanced tech for verification) with greater error limits, that was later misused for political reasons.

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      4. So, you’d choose to continue living like a primitive caveman?
        You should also start living in caves, in the jungles ,travel on foot, hunt for food and do all they did.

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      5. Your inference that has posed this query is 100% flawed. Have I ever written that I would support religion over science ? Should I “presume” that this is how your thinking works to infer from data in your research papers, as highly opinionated and “angry” ? Certainly not.

        So, please cool down, as you seem to be “presuming” things unnecessarily.

        If you calm down and reread what I said, all I have tried to explain –

        “Religion was a necessary step in the evolution of human intelligence,” before the advent of modern science. That’s it.

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  8. Your inference that has posed this query is 100% flawed. Have I ever written that I would support religion over science ? Should I “presume” that this is how your thinking works to infer from data in your research papers, as highly opinionated and “angry” ? Certainly not.

    So, please cool down, as you seem to be “presuming” things unnecessarily.

    If you calm down and reread what I said, all I have tried to explain –

    “Religion was a necessary step in the evolution of human intelligence,” before the advent of modern science. That’s it.

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    1. I never speak to people using religion as a standpoint because it means different things to people so I rather call my self a man of faith and anyone that believes there is no God like an actual God that created this world and for it to be possible that God must exist outside of it consciously myopic and that is okay. They have to accept the gospel they just need to hear it.

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  9. This person called Doctor or whatever is a delusion person refrain from wasting your time how can you come attack me directly for that I have choosen to show you what eloquence in diction looks like 😀Oh you see the problem you are a slave to the auto correction clearly that was an omission or a typo than a spelling error but clearly I can see that you are far from wisdom, but be rest assured it is not a issue of what is better they are both existing scidcd just complements the gospel it doesnt matter what you believe everyone that tells you the gospel just needs you to hear it they are not responsible for changing your convictions. I dont know what “doctor ” you call yourself but clearly you need to be placed on meds with no decreasing therapeutic level. In the soundness of words I doubt you can match me but I would be wasting my time even the word of God has told me wisdom is profitable to direct so I am directing this on your behalf. You plagued with the midgetism of the mind. I had to coin a word for you because you have show an irresponsibility in composure to argue objectively.

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  10. This dialogue of Science vs. Religion is a very old one – why must it always be black and white? Religion provides a basis of virtues such as respecting each other while science can solve problems such as cures for diseases. Religion and Science are both equal in providing ways of peace and also new ways of war (i.e. The Inquisition, WW2 introduction of Nuclear bombs).

    While we cannot do any CAT scan on the mind of a religious scholar millennia ago, all religions provide the foundations to living a life with the world around them while possibly living in fear of the “wrath of God”. Science has enhanced many ways that we live now while also allowing us to live in fear of mass extinction from Nuclear Warfare. Human ingenuity is just as natural as our beliefs in a Higher Power. It is not always a red pill vs. blue pill choice – I find it more to be a balancing act between the two.

    It may be your prerogative to solely follow science and denounce religion and it may be someone else’s prerogative to solely follow religion and denounce science. There are those out there who see the benefits and detriments of both. Continuing the hate of either side, however, raises unnecessary escalations.

    Be well and be safe.

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  11. When I was a teenager I was ruthless about my atheism, now I choose to walk away, but I still feel religion has a lot to answer for , interesting read 🙂

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  12. Interesting post! I would also pick science because of the reasons you stated. Science definitely evolves and adapts with the scientific process. I’m quite interested in astrophysics and how our understanding of space and time has changed over time.
    However, religion can also be useful, and possibly helped our ancestors think more scientifically. The thing I don’t like about some religions is that their god rules by fear, and there is a sort of reward system with heaven/hell. In my opinion, religion should push people to be their best selves by giving them virtues to live by, enabling them to live a full life.
    Thanks for visiting my blog!

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  13. Hi There, Thanks for following me! After reading your Science or Religion post, I wondered why, but am definitely intrigued. I believe in science and I trust that the Bible is the word of God, not a myth. Yes, someone told someone, and then they told someone, all a part of God’s plan. I believe that science does not contradict the Bible but supports it, and yes, science is something verifiable. I also know that God is Creator and if we could figure him out, he would not be God. He actually says: “For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, declares the LORD. for as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways and my thoughts than your thoughts.” Isaiah 55:8-9

    But, I know I won’t convince you otherwise. Thanks for reading my post!

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      1. ““Who is this that darkens counsel by words without knowledge? Dress for action like a man; I will question you, and you make it known to me. “Where were you when I laid the foundation of the earth? Tell me, if you have understanding. Who determined its measurements—surely you know! Or who stretched the line upon it?

        when the morning stars sang together and all the sons of God shouted for joy?”
        ‭‭Job‬ ‭38:2-5, 7‬ ‭ESV‬‬

        Thanks for engaging me in this discussion, but I pray your eyes will be opened to see. That is not something I cannot do, only God.

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      2. Well, if God put the pieces together to form the Earth, he did a pretty terrible job.
        What kind of Higher power, The God, who knows everything, who is, was and will be, couldn’t manage to even make a perfect sphere?
        I mean, if made the Universe and us with such perfection, was he sick and sleepless for days when he created Earth? Or the other planets?
        That’s just sad!

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      1. Because otherwise you wouldn’t have been using wordpress on a mobile or computer, via internet, on the world wide web, able to communicate with someone miles away.

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      2. You are typing in these irrational comments. Aren’t you?
        And I am reading them and replying rationally. Isn’t that the case here?
        Or being blinded by the thought of existence of some stupid being doesn’t let you understand that?

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      3. Well, you see. I am not giving a spiritual lecture here.
        I am explaining how science gives facts.
        And in that aspect, I don’t believe, rather I know that I am a little more informed than many.

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      4. The quality of those observations is proved every time general relativity is used and gives exact mathematical proof. Or every time when gravitational constant is used, or the earth revolves, or it rains, or lightening strikes, or a fan moves, or a computer works.
        It was proved the day Higgs-Boson was discovered at CERN. Or when Black Hole was found to be exactly how Stephen hawking theorized.

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      5. I am not religious, I try to describe my personal experiences. Observing the process involved into any noteworthy scientific discovery, there always appears “the strike of genius” “the evrika moment of illumination” … I am fascinated about this moment. I believe this is a moment of pure observation, which is a complete seeing of what is. I know it all must sound irrational, but this is how I see it.

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      6. If you knew what a mystical experience is , you wouldn’t ask for it to be explained to anyone. It is an experience so precious to the one who is blessed by the bliss.

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  14. Very well written. You have been honest about your opinion and there’s nothing wrong in doing so. We are all individuals with our own individual minds, education and upbringing. I just wanna say, I believe in God. He did not create religion, we humans did but I am a firm believer and to me my spirituality weighs heavier than science.

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  15. People have been having this discussion for millenium. It is a good one. I believe we are questing beings. This leads to our efforts to understand all things. Science is an organized method that leads us toward understanding. Human spirituality defies science. What is it that ignites the body at conception and leaves it at death? We cannot see or touch it. I believe religion is the attempt by people to understand spirit and calm their fears. We are terrified of unknowing yet it surrounds us. There is much more to this life than I shall ever understand. I am at peace with this

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    1. I honestly can’t make you believe in religion but arguing on the basis of religion is as a result of fear of the unknown is actually a vague opinion… No scientist will want to believe there’s hell, there’s judgement day.. Have you asked yourself why.. It’s fear of the unknown

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  16. Entirely true what you say. However, we are taught of the all-powerful God who actually created this world. Just as you have your opinion which I immensely respect – I personally feel Science too happens because of this all-powerful God. Entirely my view
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  17. As an avid reader of Christopher Hitchens and others of the same leaning, Science hands down every time Even as a very young child, I was not superstitious nor did I enjoy fantasy. As an old TV character once said, “Just the facts…”.

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  18. There is so much I could say on this subject. 1) Agree to disagree. 2) Science and imagination/outside of the box thinking have always gone necessarily together – along with the need for an agreed upon symbology system to represent empirical data in a way which is necessarily abstracted from that data in order for us to meaningfully collaborate. Otherwise, almost any kind of science would necessarily become incredibly complex. Imagine lugging all the rocks around anytime we wanted to teach students geology. 3) Conversely, “Religion” is dependent on empirical data which we use and share in a shared universe with certain fixed properties, our knowledge of which has changed over time but has remained similar enough that for example when I say “earth” or “ground” we all more or less know what I’m referring to. Generational sharing – together with the flexible changeability of these shared systems – shows that some religions really can stand the test of time, whatever else you maybe believe about them. I would posit that “science” and “religion” do go together, always have, and rely on each other. That said, interesting post. 🙂

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    1. Oh and honestly I don’t particularly care what you believe about that, because to each his or her own. But I was wondering if anyone has any thoughts on a subject I do care about, involving how to convince people in my native country (The United States) to trust actual science over a crazy president. Because, seriously, if this guy gets elected to a second term I might almost be tempted to try atheism for a while if I didn’t have such a close relationship with God, who I’m pretty sure is equally annoyed as I am with some of his/her/their so-called followers. Seriously, though. Free will and propaganda and populism. It’s like herding cats. We need some kind of grand unified theory for that.

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  19. I like what you have written, Kaahsh. And it’s sad that, in the times that we are living, there are still people who believe that God cures diseases when in reality it’s science! I respect that a person has faith because, in certain situations, it’s necessary, but I doubt if any of these people have ever wondered what the world would be like without science.

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  20. I agree with your views concerning religion. In the Bible, Jesus’ main enemies were the religious leaders. Perhaps you can take a moment and read my blog on May 10, titled “It Is They.” Religion can so easily become a breeding ground for hypocrisy. The best thing that ever happened to religion is when Jesus Christ turned it topsy-turvy! When He turned it from man vainly, routinely working his way to please a God who expects perfection – to the Creator God lovingly, patiently, and forgivingly reaching to the only part of His creation He created in His own image and seeking a relationship with him. God seeking man – not man seeking God. A personal relationship with Jesus Christ is the path to love, joy, peace, forgiveness, and freedom. Everything God created was perfection. The imperfections of life and the world as we know it are a result of man’s rejection of God’s way for his own way. But that does not stop God from loving His people. It does not stop Jesus Christ from providing the way for eternal life through forgiven sins. It does not stop the Holy Spirit from gently and softly wooing us, calling us to open our hearts. If we will be still and listen with our hearts, we can hear the call and feel the love. God bless you!

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  21. This is a subject that has been argued century in century out.. however i would still say science is limited due to the fact that it is not monolithic unlike religion… science fails to explain morality and its origin… It’s based on assumptions created with hypotheses and however religion actually doesn’t fight science science fights science….

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  22. The basic difference between science and religion: science indicates there is just one reality, but the religious say there are two. From all that science tells us, death is final, but the religious say, there is not just one life, but two. GROG

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